Things She Wants

… and you shouldn’t give.

Original post by RedPillDad:

A woman is often very conflicted, and some of the things she seeks can do more harm than good. On one hand she wants to lock you down and own you. She wants complete security. But that isn’t what she needs. If you try to please her or let her do things her way, you’ll be spinning your wheels while she sabotages everything trying to chase feeling happy in the moment, while avoiding any bad feelings.

To keep her head right, you must do things that seem wrong while avoiding some things that instinctively feel right.

Here are things she wants that you shouldn’t give:

Your Love – She loves male attention, and turning men into love-struck little boys is a boost to her vanity. But she wants the man who can hold a strong frame in the face of all her charms.

Your Respect – She wants you to be a chivalrous gentleman, but don’t treat her special. She admires a man who puts himself above her and evokes intense feelings through alternate application of pain and soothing relief.

Your Commitment – She wants the challenge of winning you over, she doesn’t value the prize that’s easily gained. Instead of being a devoted White Knight, be the gatekeeper of your commitment. Your devotion is her reward for good behavior.

Your Time and Attention – She wants you to make her #1 in your life. Instead, stay on your mission and maintain a great life of your own.

Your Resources – Some women are parasitic and will gladly use you for lodging, food, entertainment, etc. Beware of letting someone into your life who doesn’t bring anything extra to the table.

Chase – She wants to feel coveted as the prize, but disrespects any man who chases her. Instead, be the prize and give her room to chase you.

Availability – She wants you to be at her beck and call. Instead, be less available because your life is full of more important stuff. Your scarcity of time for her actually makes her want you more.

Power and Control – She wants to have complete control in the relationship. But on a primal level, she wants you to lead her, not roll over and be a submissive puppy-dog.

Freedom – She wants freedom, but she’s a pack animal. She does better when she feels connected and bound to a mate and a tribe. Given freedom and the opportunity to indulge every whim, she’ll become a train-wreck. Despite her protests, she wants you to set boundaries and rein her in.

Comfort – Instead of easing tension, spike it up. And instead of making her life easy, challenge her. Avoid complacency. Insist your mission and happiness comes before her.

Security – Don’t eliminate her insecurity. You want her to feel tension and some pangs of envy and jealousy. Women are vulnerable to competition anxiety. Seeing that some other girl wants you makes you much more attractive to her. To her those are clear indications of your value and the jealousy she feels is interpreted as a strong sign of love.

Friendship – She wants you to be her best friend. But whenever you lose your masculine frame and act as her BETA friend, she’ll feel supported but lose attraction.


Original title: A woman cannot tell you how you must proceed. She can only tell you what she wants to experience, by Whisper:

It’s well known that women give incredibly poor seduction and relationship advice. It’s also well known that they are completely unaware of this.

But what if we were to ask ourselves “why”? What is the common thread in all bad female advice that makes them think it’s good? How does it look good advice from their perspective?

The answer is female solipsism.

When you ask a woman for dating advice (not that you should, unless you could use a laugh), she is incapable of imagining how the world must look through your eyes. Therefore, she can only tell you what she wants it to look like from hers.

A woman who says you should do X or Y, therefore, isn’t talking crazy talk. Just self-centered narcissism talk. She’s giving you good information… IF you insert words like “I want it to look/feel like” or “I want people to think” in front of every statement.

Try it as a mental exercise.

  • “Just be yourself” = “I want to look like you’re just being yourself.”
  • “Act natural, don’t force it” = ” I want it to feel natural, not forced.”
  • “Love will just happen when you meet the right person.” = “I want it to look like it just happened without effort, because he was the right person.”
  • “Be honest” = “Sound honest.”

All the quotes on the left are bullshit non-advice. But the ones on the right describe the seduction magic we work to create.

Does it work on other statements women make, too? You bet it does.

  • “I want to be independent.” = “I want to look independent.” (I don’t, however, want to actually take responsibility for myself. That’s hard work.)
  • “I would never do that.” = “I wouldn’t want anyone knowing I did that.”
  • “I am a good person.” = “I want you to think I am a good person.”
  • “I am spiritual, but not religious.” = “I want you to think I am deep, but I do not want you to think I am dogmatic.”

We can see that pretty much every a woman says makes perfect sense if you proceed from the assumption that she is the center of the universe, and hers is the only perspective there is. If we think about, we can even start to have ideas about where female solipsism comes from.

Women are both evolved and raised to deal with people, not things. In the world of things, there is one true set of circumstances, the way things really are. Fail to grasp it, and you can’t get anything done. Your machines don’t work, your bridges collapse, your software crashes and brings down the New York Stock Exchange. But in the world of people, what’s important isn’t what’s really there, but what you can convince other people of.

To a woman, truth = consensus. It isn’t important what’s true. It’s important what you can make people believe. And telling any literal truth just weakens her ability to sell the story she wants to sell.

So when a woman tells you something, she isn’t stupidly unable to know she’s bullshitting you. Nor is she maliciously trying to pull your leg. It’s just that, to her, communication consists solely of people trying to bullshit each other. Any other possible way of communicating doesn’t enter into her awareness. That’s why you can stand ten feet from a woman and scream “What I mean is the literal content of the words I just said!”, and she will look for the hidden meaning in both that statement and the one before.

Someone steeped in that environment has no incentive to imagine what the world looks like from someone else’s point of view. To attempt to do so would be a great weakness, because it would spoil her ability to push her own point of view.

Just remember that almost anytime a woman says “this is” or “do this”, she is actually saying “this is the illusion I desire”.

Single and Educated: China’s “Leftover” women

As per TRPsubmitter:

Came across this article and it’s quite indicative of complaints I hear from Korean and Korean-American friends this time of year. What a delight to realize that some parts of the world still maintain RP attitudes and value femininity while not giving into feminist attitudes that older, fatter, masculine & “more educated” women are supposedly more sexually attractive (or even worse, that sexual attractiveness shouldn’t be considered at all).

According to the “All China Women’s Federation”:

“Pretty girls don’t need a lot of education to marry into a rich and powerful family, but girls with an average or ugly appearance will find it difficult. These kinds of girls hope to further their education in order to increase their competitiveness.

Many highly educated ‘leftover women’ are very progressive in their thinking and enjoy going to nightclubs to search for a one-night stand, or they become the mistress of a high official or rich man.

“It is only when they have lost their youth and are kicked out by the man, that they decide to look for a life partner. Therefore, most ‘leftover women’ do not deserve our sympathy.”

No, these are not comments I copied from threads here. This gov’t organization was “founded by the Communist party in 1949” and reflects the Chinese’s “official” position. How refreshing it is to have a government/group actually come out in support of pragmatism as well as economic & evolutionary realities. No sugar coating or white knighting on behalf of Chinese women; the government is telling it like it is. Can you imagine the US government or a thinktank saying anything close to these comments?

So, what is the explanation for this? Due to the one child policy, there are 20 million more men under 30 than women in China. Chinese women should have NO problem finding a willing male mate, RIGHT? Well, “according to Sun Mei’e, deputy director of the Shanghai Women’s Federation”:

the “problem” of single people may be due to…the tradition that stresses men must be financially stronger than women in a marriage at a time when women’s economic power is growing

Basically, hypergamy. This is biological and makes sense evolutionarily. “B grade” women want “A grade” men. So what happens when a society has women that reach “A grade”? Hypergamy doesn’t go away, resulting in societal/familial breakdown. Hypergamy won’t allow those “A grade” women to match themselves with their “A grade” men peers. They want a guy above “A grade” (their own unicorn).

This is why all societies in which women become “educated” end up with the same social issues: low birth rate, low marriage rate, higher divorce rate, increased welfare spending. In other words, there’s plenty of beta men out there who want children/family and will work for it, but these are not “qualified” men in the minds of the brunch-eating, Sex & the city-living, mojito-drinking, chihuahua-owning 32-year-old women.

So to my Chinese male comrades, keep on slut-, fat- & feminist-shaming. Kudos to you for not giving in.

Stating the Obvious about Obesity and “Fat Shaming” – Reflections From an Expat‏

The idea that ‘fat shaming’ is somehow a social issue has seeped so deep into American thought, that today I saw my own stupid liberal post-40/50 relatives arguing about it on Facebook, so I feel the need to share an observation. I’ve been living abroad for two years and have lived in five different countries. Currently I am in Eastern Europe (yes, I love it, and yes, the women are as beautiful as you’ve heard; but, I digress). That observation is this:

Only in America is fatness considered to be a social issue. Because we’re fat. And if fat people are good at one thing, it is rationalizing away the reality of their fatness.

The country I’m currently in (Poland) is world-renowned for having thin, feminine, pretty women who are sweet to talk to and like being courted (they do exist, outside the USA – I was shocked ,too). Guys come from all over Europe and even the US to try to get with Polish girls.

One thing you never, ever, hear a Polish girl say is that fatness is the fault of anyone but the fat person, or that it’s “sexy”, or “healthy”. When a Polish girl gains five or six kilos, she fucking stops eating. She says “I’m fat”, and goes on a diet until she’s thin again. Fat girls are very, very rare here. So rare, that what is considered “average to a little overweight” back home in the USA, Polish women would consider obese. And it isn’t economic, or about education level, at least as far as I can tell – it’s cultural. I’ve taken cute, PhD-educated Polish girls out to dinner and have sat with eyes agape as they order two pieces of lettuce and a water because they’re “not hungry”. They don’t eat to get full like American girls do, or because they’re like such a foodie!. They eat for fuel, when they have to, because they know eating frequently or eating excess calories is what leads to adding body fat.

Note how I say Polish women think this way. Polish men don’t give a second’s thought to fat girls. Because they don’t have to. They are swimming up to the eyeballs in model material girls who also have the potential to be great wives, because most of them are still very traditional and haven’t taken 30 cocks by the time they’re 25. Girls who are sweet, pleasant, good company, and most of the ones I’ve met don’t have the massive chip on their shoulder American girls do towards men and dating… which, come to think of it, probably has a lot to do with the fact that American girls are carrying a lot more weight on their bellies, hips, and thighs, and are self-conscious so they lash out. Also because American girls are a lot sluttier, but that’s a topic for a separate post.

One thing I’ve noticed of relevance is that most fat women are very liberal. That is why all the arguments you see against “fat shaming” have to do with hurt feelings:

  • “Just remember, the number on your scale doesn’t tell you what a good/strong person you are!” …. Yes it does.
  • “You shouldn’t make fun of fat people – being fat isn’t as bad as being an asshole!” …. Yes it is. It’s worse.
  • “You shouldn’t be mean to fat people” … Yes I should.
  • “You shouldn’t even comment on them being fat at all… negative reinforcement doesn’t work!” …. Neither does offering you a carrot when you’re busy stuffing your face with French fries.
  • “It doesn’t matter what I look like! It’s my body! All bodies are BEAUTIFUL! There’s no wrong way to have a body!” … Yes it does, no they’re not, and yes there is. Now shut the fuck up.

It’s all horse shit. Americans are fat, because we’re rich and eat a lot of shitty fried, high-fat and high-sugar food. That is the ONLY reason the idea that shaming people for being giant walking sacks of useless shit is somehow wrong exists in America. The phrase “fat shaming” doesn’t exist in places where most people are actually thin, and fatness isn’t the norm. Food should not be abundant. You should have to work for it – physically, hard, and often – and it should then only be fuel, not a vice. You treat food like a vice like we do in the USA, especially if it is highly processed and full of sugar and fats, guess what? You’re going to gain a lot of adipose tissue and look like shit.

Americans are fatter than anyone else in the world except Mexicans and Australians who are competing for that title. People abroad will happily bring this up, with no guilt or sense they are shaming you as an American when they tell you the stereotype of your country is that you are a bunch of useless fat fucks.

TL;DR: Stop being fat.

Guys only like me for my pussy!

As per [deleted]:

Whats the deal with women always claiming something along the lines of “guy only like me for my pussy”, “I’m not an object”, or the always spouted /r/relationships advice of “like her as a person, not looks etc etc”…

Meanwhile all the alphas she fucks are ONLY into the pussy and she HAS to know it.

What is the red-pill spin/explanation to this? Why do women always complain about guys loving their pussy but then they fuck alphas who undoubtedly are only in it for the pussy.

Best answer by [deleted]:

Depends on their audience:

Group: It’s a plea for attention – bragplaining if you will. She’s telling the people around her how much guys want her body, but if she makes it sound like she’s the victim of shallow sex fiends (men), she gets some reassuring compliments (“No way, you have so much to offer”) for basically…bragging.

Solution: ignore attention starved people.

Girlfriends/orbiters: It’s the hamster at work – rationalizing slutty behaviour/ONSs. It’s not that she not LTR material, it’s the men who are always in it just for the sex.

Dates – if she’s accusing you: Shit test – young girls use this one a lot. See, women don’t like rejection and they know about the power of pussy. So “you only like me for the sex” is a sure way for her to get guys that want to keep fucking her, to say some validating shit like “Don’t be ridiculous, I enjoy [random flattering bullshit]”. She’s testing to see how addicted to the pussy you are – how willing you are to work for it – it’s a commitment trap for betas.

Solution: It’s a shit test, yet agree and amplify will be too shocking for most women, unless you make it harmless – something like “Obviously, you have a magic vagina, it’s distracting”

Women actually love to be objectified by men they’re attracted to – they protest (mostly in public) because they care about image, so it’s a bad idea to objectify them in public (the anti-slut shield goes into overdrive).

A great way for you romantic motherfuckers in LTRs to exibit those few beta displays that keep the “are you going to stick around” insecurities at bay IS to objectify your girl from time to time, in private. It assures them that they’re still the object of your desire – makes them feel like women . Slap their bum on their way out the door. When they ask how some article of clothing looks on them, don’t say anything, just stare at their body with a predatory look on your face while breathing out loud, then chase them around the room. My girl giggles like a school girl throught the whole thing.

TL;DR Women like to be objectified

They protest because:

  1. it’s other women not them who are getting the attention (see: feminism)
  2. they’re in public and it goes against the feminist imperative/good girl image.
  3. it’s being done by low value men – no woman ever complains when Snoop calls them “bitch”.

Fighting against physiological responses

As per Eric Disco:

The way to get past this physiological response is through practice. By taking small, measured steps, you can quell this response. It’s a bit like getting comfortable with public speaking. First you practice speaking in front of a small group. Then a larger group. Eventually you are able to speak in front of thousands. But this comes through one thing: practice. Nothing else will change your situation. No amount of reading or logical understanding. No amount of reading about how women are not to be pedestalized. Trying to control your thoughts and feelings is counterproductive. You can only control your behavior.

I’ve spent years training guys to get past this physiological response. I had more approach anxiety than anyone. It was an ordeal for me every time I tried to approach a woman. Now things are easy for me. It’s automatic. I can sit down next to a woman and start up a conversation with very little physiological response.

The steps to practice are the same steps you would practice if you wanted to go out and meet women. Only you’ll break them down into smaller, manageable parts and get used to each part. These are the steps:

  1. Go out regularly to locations where there are attractive women. Guys with a lot of anxiety tend ot be homebodies (like me). Going out regularly is the first and most important stept.
  2. Physically position yourself next to women. This part, practiced over time, will reduce your anxiety by 75%. Whenever you see a woman whom you’re attracted to, put yourself next to her. Find any excuse you can. But do it as quickly as you can when you feel attraction. Don’t face her. Don’t talk to her. Just get close enough so that you COULD talk to her if you wanted to.
  3. Say one thing to her and walk away. Have something prepared, an innocuous question; e.g. “Is there a place around here to get on the internet?” This gets your body comfortable saying something to a woman without much on the line. The hard part, believe it or not, is walking way after saying only one thing. You’ll beat yourself up that you didn’t stay longer, but this is all part of teaching your body to be comfortable with not giving a shit about these gorgeous women.
  4. Stay in longer. Once you’re comfortable saying something and walking away, you’ll practice staying in longer. Guys with anxiety tend to feel like they need to leave the interaciton as soon as possible. Get the number and run. Utlimately you’ll be comfortable staying in interactions as long as you want with women.
  5. Transition into personal conversation. Well, we can talk about innocuous bullshit for hours, but this is one of the hardest steps for a guy. Ask her a personal question or get personal in some way. Making statements tends to work better than asking questions. “I get the feeling you do something creative.”
  6. Connect with her. Exchanging facts with women about what they do and where they live is not what builds a connection. In order to build a connection you need to focus on: emotions. What inspires her? What makes her tick? What got her to where she is in life?

Shameless self-promotion: This is a synopsis of my book available here. I’ve spent years coaching guys, dissecting this and figuring out what works best in order to get your body comfortable talking with gorgeous women.

How a Math Genius Hacked OkCupid to Find True Love

Original article from Wired. Selected comments:

reals_before_feels: Summary:

  • PHD mathematician uses bots to collect data on womens okcupid accounts, specifically what thier 500 answers where.
  • Uses data to hunt down indie chicks covered in tats and professional post wall women by copying thier answers.
  • Gets 20 messages a day, fails to get one girl home after 50+ dates and gives up.

I don’t see the red pill truth, besides OKC being full of post wall women and feminists.

EarnestMalware: Long story short: Be in huge city, tweak a word on your profile every day (keeps you in the churning ‘recent activity’ feed), and send a ton of very short messages that involve you being in a rush (at work, etc) but “needing to reach out” because she’s just too attractive or loves that series of books you actually hate or whatever bone you think she’ll devour quickest.

Fuck you, I will NOT be your beta provider

As per Renacimiento10:

UPDATE: /u/drrrrrr has made me have a major epiphany – I have no social value whatsoever and I got myself into this. I have nobody to blame but myself…Thank you all for waking me up. If I continue with the way I was before that huge realization, there would have been a 120% chance that I would end up as a real Beta Provider while my “wife” goes out and cheats on me like most women do in “marriages” anyways…

Selected comment:

drrrrrr: Think about it this way. No one has been using you. You have been giving yourself away for free. You’ve been putting yourself up to be used by any chick who gives you a little attention. You give her validation and approval, she gives you a little hot girl flirtation. You have been giving away yourself for free – you are essentially the girl who gives her pussy up to anyone who tells her “nice shoes”. You cannot blame them for treating you like an emotional sponge – that is how you approached them as .

People value what they earn. Make her earn your presence in her life. If she wants validation, that’s all well and good, I’ll validate the hell out of that ass as soon as I’m done with it.

Practical Applications of RP Theory in an LTR‏

As per GayLubeOil:

Fucking bar sluts is fun, but there are major drawbacks. Its time consuming, there is the persistent risk of STD’s plus there is also the danger of bringing someone you completely don’t know into your life. Maybe she steals. Maybe she”ll forget her syringes in your house, from all the Finaplex she takes to bridge the gender gap. Or maybe she’ll give you a throat infection because she loves kissing rando dudes. Eventually you are going to find yourself in an LTR, here are three practical ways to apply red pill theory in a relationship.

Wrestle Your Girlfriend: One of the central theories of Red Pill is that women like to be dominated. A woman’s lizard brain wants to know that you can protect her, wrestling your girlfriend is the most straight forward way of proving this. Now am I saying to inflict physical harm to your beloved? No. What im saying is that there is nothing wrong with a little horse play. Now the feminists are obviously going to read this and say aha! Red Pill promotes violence against women! Not so fast you cunts. I don’t want my girlfriend being raped and im actively preparing her to defend herself against a much larger stronger male aggressor. The final reason to wrestle your girlfriend is that it teaches her an important lesson, that life is chaotic and anything can happen at any time. One minute shes on the computer, bored watching youtube commercials because she’s a woman and doesn’t know about adblock. The next, you’re making her life exciting with the banana split.

Boss Your Girlfriend around: Women like being lead. They like it when men give them purpose. They like working towards a common goal. Because of my bodybuilding and budget, I do a lot of my own cooking. If im cooking, my girlfriend is obviously going to be eating, so I always tell her to help in the food preparation by mincing garlic, cutting onions or rubbing seasoning into meat. Bonus: she gets more practice rubbing meat.

Make her jealous from time to time. As soon as your in a happy committed relationship tons of rando bitches come out of the woodwork, touching your arms and flirting. Women find men in relationships more attractive because of Pre-selection. Hang out with other women from time to time. Get coffee, play tennis, just to let your girlfriend knwo that you have options but you don’t realy intend to pursue them.

And some selected comments:

feriksen: a few additional notes (from a married man for 14 years) on keeping your wife/LTR on her toes for you:

slap/grab her ass: Like all-the-time. Playful. Hear her giggle and watch her sway her hips just that little bit more as she walks away afterwards

pull her hair: Giving her a kiss? Pull the back of her hair ever so slightly. Try it. Intensity of her kissing you increasing by 300%. You can literally her hear tingles kick in. You should do this at least a few times a day. She’ll be ready to roll at the drop of a pin after a while. Of course, once in bed(or couch, or over kitchen sink or..), do the same there. And do slap that ass again.

I should really try and do a write up on how to handle fighting/screaming/name calling.. Apart from keeping my wifes sexual attraction high as much as possible, I think the handling of fights are the 2nd biggest contributor for us at least, in keeping a healthy marriage (and trust me, the first 13 years were not so happy).

my 2cents at least


slap/grab her ass: Like all-the-time. Playful. Hear her giggle and watch her sway her hips just that little bit more as she walks away afterwards

I also hump my gf a lot of the time. Like as she’s making food I’ll just walk up behind her and start humping. Playfully. Maybe I’ll whisper “Shhhh. It’s not about sex it’s about dominance.” My current gf is the only one so far that humps me back. It’s fun.

Give her almost no attention at times: If I’m in the middle of reading something or doing whatever and she tries to talk about shit I’ll just ignore her. When she asks if I’m listening I say “no.” Why? Because it reinforces the fact that your time is more valuable than hers. Guys who give their girlfriend/wife 100% of their attention every time she wants it are not the guys you want to be. It’s not something to do constantly, but scattered throughout your relationship.

tease/fuck with her frequently This is of course standard in early game stages, but I notice a lot of guys let this slip after a while. It’s something to consciously keep doing.

do silly shit together This is along the lines of teasing, and may just be my particular brand of humor, but I like doing random silly shit with my gf. Sometimes when I go to kiss her I’ll go full-on open mouth tongue wagging. We act out plays (where I of course have the dominant role) and if there’s a hand kissing part I’ll make out with her hand in an over-exaggerated fashion. Play peek-a-boo with her. Whatever.

Women are basically children at heart so they take a lot of joy in silly things. It’s fun for them and me. Additionally, if you do all the silly things in a way that enhances your dominance, they not only “love how fun you are” but it really helps instill and maintain the dominant/submissive dynamic in yet another way. Obviously this can be overdone and you’ll look like a clown. Obviously this shouldn’t be done in public, generally speaking. Nevertheless, a healthy dose of this spurs bonding, her sense of how fun you are, and enhances your dominance. (I think part of why girls like a guy that can be silly is that it triggers the part of their brain so that they think you’ll be a good dad.

Really, most LTR game for me has been getting a balance of alpha/beta traits, weighted toward alpha of course.

Another thing is that frame control is huge, and a lot of the silly/random stuff, by nature of her becoming a part of your imagination, forces her further into your frame.

feriksen again:

tease/fuck with her frequently This is of course standard in early game stages, but I notice a lot of guys let this slip after a while. It’s something to consciously keep doing.

This! Keep up feeding her attraction/appetite for you. All the examples are basically ways to express physical dominance. And so many of us stop doing that within the LTR, then wonder why she is no longer that attracted to us.

Other stuff:

Lifting: When I come from work/travel, she meets me at the door I lift her up, have her wrap her legs around my waist, and I just drop my briefcase, close the door and carry her either to the armrest of the couch or onto the dining table, and give her a 5 second tounge-inspection. If I’m horny, she’ll be ready then and there. Hell, if I’ve travelled for more then a few days she’ll be greeting me in lingerie (with the expectation of getting nailed hard)…

Texting: while at work, before coming home: “I am going to fuck ur brain out tonight”. She will be horny long before you come home. No silly questions, assume the sale, and take what you want.

And secularist42:

Couple of things from my marriage:

Fuck her…often: This might sound obvious, but to those of us in LTR’s…a few years in, life can get in the way sometimes. I have to be mindful of how important sex is for keeping my wife in the mindset we both prefer. Fuck her. Well and often. And don’t ever ask…you’re in a relationship…sex is expected to be part of that equation.

Resist the urge to make her life easier: What I mean is don’t compromise yourself when you wouldn’t otherwise. When she has a cold and feels like shit, don’t ask what she wants for dinner when normally you’d be making the decision. Give her options: “A or B?”…but not: “I know you’re sick…what do you feel like?”. We know to not do this in everyday…make sure you don’t do it when she needs your decisiveness most.

Keep being the ‘Asshole She Fell In Love With’: This is the NMMNG part of it. There is something so telling about my wife saying “you’re SUCH an asshole!” with a subtle head tilt and a grin, her eyes smiling. I’ve made the mistake of thinking I needed to soften my personality over time in relationships in my past…with expected results. Dante has that saying about whatever it is that gets the girl is the same thing that keeps the girl. Own that.

2nd nomination for consistent Hair Pulling and Ass Slaps with an added Picking Her Up and Manhandling Her onto the counter or kitchen table etc.: I’ll reach over at a restaurant or while driving and grab a handful of her hair with a light pull. Doesn’t have to be followed with a kiss, but certainly can be. Ass Slaps are the same, in the grocery store or at home…a great reminder. Picking her up and throwing her on the counter then kissing or bending her over the table work to let her literally feel your command of your ship…things that all have her feeling comforted and feminine in my world.

A reward system, not a restriction system, is the best way to maintain frame and respect

As per u/NoThankYouJeff‘s post on TRP:

I see a lot of men [especially natural alphas, this is their main shortcoming] fall into the trap of placing restrictions on women [when these alphas are in relationship]. On the other hand I see a lot of betas who aren’t in relationships reward women for bad behaviour.

A system which places more emphasises on rewarding, not one which restricts women, is better and allows you a greater control to maintain your frame and keep your dignity and respect.

Women, just like children, want to break ‘rules’ put in place to test your resolve. After all women aren’t children so there’s no point telling them what they can’t and can do. Men will break rules because they want their freedom or make a point, women will do it to test your resolve. This is another inherent difference between men and women: men will do it for a good reason, women will do it for the heck of it and to shit test/challenge you frame. What you can do is not reward bad behaviour.

A few examples of what I’m talking about:

  • Do not marry a ‘reformed slut’ who has had her fun on the cock carousel and is now looking for the dream marriage and family that the media and society has promised her. Do not reward her that which she does not deserve. This is better than coming across as a bitter beta who complains that there’s too many sluts and women shouldn’t have sex and thus giving feminists more artillery to use against the common man. Just don’t reward her.
  • Do not get into a relationship with a single mother and thus provide her with emotional and financial protection. On a wider level all Government benefits should be stopped for a woman who willingly becomes a single mother when the father makes it clear he will not be supporting her. There’s far too many options for a woman to simply ‘accidentally’ become pregnant in today’s day and age.
  • If you go on a date with a woman and she’s more interested in her mobile phone than talking to you, abruptly end the date right there. Don’t complain about it or call her out on it and come across as a whining bitch, just walk out.
  • If you’re talking to a woman and she has a huge bitch shield, move on. Even if you do have the game to overcome the bitch shields just move and don’t dance to her tune of gaming her further. Even if you get the bang she will have an inflated ego that she made a man dance so much for her.

These are a few examples but I think if established and used on a wider scale many women will change their attitude overnight. Men have far more power in the dating world than they realise, even the betas.

Obviously the opposite holds true, reward a woman who cherishes her femininity and embraces her feminine role with a man [this seems extremely weird to write out since 99.9% of Western women hate femininity and love to act masculinity which is a huge turn off].

Most of all you have to realise the most important aspect of game: FRAME. Every interaction with a woman, from co-worker level to a romantic level, is her testing your frame. Frame is the most important part of game. Game is 90% frame. Once you master how to maintain frame everything else falls into place. This is the hardest part of game since as a rookie it’s very easy to get lost in a woman’s looks and lose your frame.